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Spencers Retail Undervalued retail story

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@nirajiitkgp wrote:

Spencers Retail is demerged entity from cesc LTD and got listed in Jan 2019 separately. Spencer is trying to position itself as lifestyle retail company and attempting to Increase share of fashion product in it’s sku otherwise currently it is food n Staples based retail company. In financial year ending March 2019 it has sale turnover of around 2200 cr with marginal operating profit n almost zero net profit. It was cash surplus with cash on books of more than 200 cr with net debt zero. In month of July 2019 it has acquired retail business of godrej natural basket at cash consideration of around 300 cr whose balance sheet integration with Spencer is underway. It is expected that it may cause Spencer of around 100 cr debt. Nature basket has turnover of around 335 cr and operating loss of around 60 cr in fy ending March 2019. Most interesting thing is about valuation Spencer is currently valued at market cap of around 540 cr and Enterprise value of close to 700 cr post nature basket acquisition and annual sales turnover in excess of around 2500 cr with zero operating profit. So overall is available at sales to Enterprise value of around 25 perc. Promoters is buyer of stock from open market worth around 50 cr since listing . It is speculated that few month back Amazon was interested to invest in this company at valuation of .8 times sales but promoters themselves wanted to grow the business. It has total store count of around 155 (by adding 35 store count of nature basket store count can cross around 190) with more than 60 lakh customer and annual transaction of around 3.1 cr and average customer spend per transaction of around RS 725. I guess market is concerned about management quality and uncertainty related with acquisition of nature basket which may push profit by few quarters and recent consumption slowdown related stories putting addition selling pressure on stock . Most pure play retail companies is still trading at near to their all time high so valuation for Spencer seem attractive. A company which acquired a company by paying 300 cr in cash is itself available at valuation of 540 cr. Also few month back company appointed former md of Walmart India as CEO to lead the company and chairman Sanjeev Geonka in media interview sounded positive about future outlook of the company . Company has strong presence in states like West Bengal Andhra and eastern up mostly tier 2 cities and acquisition of nature basket give it foot hold in Western market and metro cities like Mumbai Pune Bangalore n Delhi where Spencer has small presence. It is also important to note that Spencer is first retail company which brought concept of hyper Mart in Indian market in 1990 even before future group though management is not able to capitalize on retail opportunity and in 2015 closed around half of it’s loss making retail stores . Due to these kind of historial issues market is not judging this company favorably even though standalone basis company posted operating profit of around 35 cr in quarter ended June 2019.


Disc: I am already invested in this stock at higher level and currently in notional loss from this.

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Metropolis Healthcare Ltd - Another Diagnostic Player

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@mylu wrote:

About Metropolis

Metropolis Labs is a chain of diagnostic companies, with its central laboratory in Mumbai, Maharashtra. Metropolis Healthcare has a chain of 106 clinical laboratories and 1130 collection centers across 7 countries including India. The healthcare company was founded in 1980, as a single laboratory with a revenue of about US$1.5 million and 4500 employees.

The company offers a broad range of clinical laboratory tests (3,487)
and 530 profiles. It follows a ‘hub & spoke’ model for quick and efficient delivery of services through laboratory and service network, which covers 197 cities in India. As of 9MFY19, its laboratory network consists of 115 clinical laboratories, comprising a global reference laboratory, 14 regional reference laboratories, 56 satellite laboratories, 44 express laboratories.

The company caters to both individual (1631 touch points) and institutional
customers (9552 touch points). Metropolis has also been awarded tender from National Aids Control Organisation (Naco). Outside India, the company
has laboratory operations in Ghana, Kenya, Zambia, Mauritius and Sri Lanka. Also, it has entered into agreements with third parties for collection and processing of specimens in Nepal, Nigeria, UAE and Oman.

IPO:
Metropolis Healthcare came up with IPO in April month with a price band of Rs 877-880 per share. The issue comprised of 1,36,85,095 equity shares included offer for sale of up to 62,72,335 equity shares by promoter Dr Sushil Kanubhai Shah and up to 74,12,760 shares by CA Lotus Investments (investor selling shareholder).

Financials

Standalone Balance Sheet
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Standalone Income Statement

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Competitors:
Dr Lal path Labs , SRL Diagnostic , Thyrocare Technologies.

Observation (may be red flag also):
The company is seen doing lot of acquisitions and lot of subsidiary/ holding companies (according to their annual report around 19 of them including overseas) .

My View:

I strongly feel that diagnostic healthcare will be a closely watched sector in the coming years as people has become increasingly conscious about their health.

Though , lot of unorganized centers in each and every location is a biggest challenge , it will be interesting to see how branded companies succeed in this race.

This post is not a recommendation and individual investors are requested to do their analysis before investing.

Acknowledgements:

http://content.icicidirect.com/mailimages/IDirect_Metropolis_IPOReview.pdf

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Affle India - India Mobile Internet Advertising Leader

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@vnktshb wrote:

New IPO with current market capitalization of Rs2816crs. Promoter holding is 68.38%. Main public shareholders as below.

Affle India Limited is a Mumbai based company engaged in the business of mobile marketing with its digital platforms. The company offers a consumer and an enterprise platforms to its clients. With these products company tries to improve the ROI on digital marketing campaigns for clients, reduce the ad frauds, maintaining consumer privacy and more.

Affle India was initially incorporated as “Tejus Securities Private Limited” in 1994. It was then subsequently converted to a public limited company on July 13th 2018 and the name was changed to ‘Affle (India) Limited’

Affle Consumer Platform’s had approximately 2.02 billion consumer profiles as at March 31, 2019 of which approximately 571 million were in India, 582 million were in Other Emerging Markets (which comprises Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and others) and 867 million were in Developed Markets (which comprises North America, Europe, Japan, Korea, and Australia). During Fiscal 2019, the Affle Consumer Platform accumulated over 300 billion data points, which power their prediction and recommendation algorithm.

New IPO which listed on August 8, 2019

Promoters of the company
Anuj Khanna Sohum and Affle Holdings are the joint promoters of the company

How They Earn Revenue?
a) They Primarily earn revenue from their Consumer Platform on a cost per converted user (“ CPCU ”) basis, which comprises user conversions based on consumer acquisition and transaction models. The transaction model is usually in the form of a targeted user submitting a lead acquisition form or purchasing a product or service after seeing an advertisement delivered by the Affle .

b) They also earn revenue from their Consumer Platform through awareness and engagement type advertising, which comprises cost per thousand impressions (“CPM”), cost per view (“CPV”) and cost per click (“CPC”) models.

Industry they serve
Their products are used in e-commerce, fin-tech , telecom , media , retail and FMCG companies, both directly and indirectly through their advertising agencies

Asset Light Model
Their Consumer Platform business is asset-light and scalable as shown by the fact that company’s employee benefit expenses, depreciation and amortization expenses, and other expenses have remained relatively unchanged despite significant changes in our revenue in the last three fiscal years.

Other facts
The company has acquired two subsidiaries in 2018-19 that is why Consolidated Financials have been prepared for this year.
The Company unlike tech startups not burning investors money but generating free cash which is a healthy sign for the business

Key Risks
If our ability to collect significant amounts of data from various sources is restricted by consumer choice, restrictions imposed by customers, publishers and browsers or other software developers, or changes in technology it may have a material adverse effect on our business, results of operations, cash flows and financial condition.

Regulatory, legislative or self-regulatory developments regarding data protection could adversely affect our ability to conduct our business.

If we fail to predict an engagement by consumers with mobile ads with a sufficient degree of accuracy, it could have a material adverse effect on business, results of operations, cash flows and financial condition.

The market in which we participate is intensely competitive and we may not be able to compete successfully with our current or future competitors. Although it is dominated by digital giants such as Google and Facebook, there are over a hundred companies around the world who offer one or more components of this solution. However, only a few companies/groups operate internationally, including, among others, us, InMobi, Criteo,
Tradedesk, Freakout, Mobvista and YouAppi.

If we are unable to protect our proprietary information or other intellectual property, our business, results of operations, cash flows and financial condition could be adversely affected.

Affle IPO RHP https://d2un9pqbzgw43g.cloudfront.net/main/Affle-India-Limited-Red-Herring.pdf

Financials Consolidated for FY19

DISCLOSURE: INVESTED

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Sandur Manganese

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@basumallick wrote:

About the Company:

  • 65 Year old company

  • Y.R. Ghorpade, the former Maharaja of Sandur, after he merged the Sandur State with Union of India, was awarded a mining lease over an area of 7500 ha. It was he, who founded the Sandur Manganese & Iron Ores Limited (SMIORE) and the lease was transferred to the company. Out of this, 2800 ha of area, which was largely iron ore bearing, was deleted when our lease was renewed in 1974 and retained by the Government. During the second renewal, the company voluntarily surrendered another 1500 ha of forest area for land preservation. Finally the lease was renewed over an area of 3200 ha with effect from 1st January 1994.

  • With a view to ensure better protection and development of the forested land, Founder Y.R. Ghorpade, magnanimously gifted about 1600 ha of his personal property in 1980. Out of the 3200 ha, we work on 2005 ha, keeping the balance 1200 ha reserved for future use.

Let’s look at some of their past nos
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Then the mining crisis happened

One of the few honest company in mining

Only Mining Lessee to have been awarded 5 Star rating in the state of Karnataka and one of 3 in the Country to have got 5 Star rating

SC allowed category A mines to operate with a cap on production. This cap is being relaxed gradually.

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Why it could be interesting now?

Financials - https://www.screener.in/company/504918/

To Summarize:

  • At Mcap of 700 Cr
  • Stock trading at 5 PE
  • Profits for last 3 years - 56 Cr, 107 Cr, 142 Cr
  • Business generates high margins and free cash flows. Co is debt free with cash on balance sheet
  • Optionality of substantial increase in operations
  • Expansion of 400-500 Cr underway - co investing into Coke Oven plan, ferro alloys etc as forward integration

Negatives:

  • Highly volatile commodity
  • Regulated by Govt. Strange rules in Karnataka
  • Major expansion into steel in coming years

Disclosure:
I am a SEBI registered RA and founder of www.intelsense.in. I have no current investments in this stock, neither have I recommended it to my members. However, I may do so in the future. Please do your own due diligence before deciding to invest. This post is for educational purposes only.

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IIFL securities

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@mohammadarshad27 wrote:

Hi everyone,

This is my first post.
I dont know much about investing. So spare me for the mistakes and please guide me towards the unending learning process.

IIFL securities is demerged recently and after making a high of 30 it corrected sharply.
IIFL securities is in the business of broking and advisory.
Competition: legacy brokers face tough competition from discount brokerages like zerodha, upstox etc.
IIFL surely knows that and they want to grow in advisory and take the share to 70%.
There is not enough data available as of now… They have to still declare there independent results.
I have gone through the data available on moneycontrol

Fairfax is one of the biggest shareholder with 36%. They hold more than the promoters.
Marketcap of the company is 754 crore BUT CASH ON THE BOOK IS 1000 CRORES and is hugely undervalued

ROE is 28.ROCE is 34.

Company requires less amount of capital and can generate free cash flows as there is lot of headroom to grow because of underpenetration in demat account holders and mutual fund.

Kindly guide.

Disc: small position just to track.

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Sandur Manganese

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@basumallick wrote:

About the Company:

  • 65 Year old company

  • Y.R. Ghorpade, the former Maharaja of Sandur, after he merged the Sandur State with Union of India, was awarded a mining lease over an area of 7500 ha. It was he, who founded the Sandur Manganese & Iron Ores Limited (SMIORE) and the lease was transferred to the company. Out of this, 2800 ha of area, which was largely iron ore bearing, was deleted when our lease was renewed in 1974 and retained by the Government. During the second renewal, the company voluntarily surrendered another 1500 ha of forest area for land preservation. Finally the lease was renewed over an area of 3200 ha with effect from 1st January 1994.

  • With a view to ensure better protection and development of the forested land, Founder Y.R. Ghorpade, magnanimously gifted about 1600 ha of his personal property in 1980. Out of the 3200 ha, we work on 2005 ha, keeping the balance 1200 ha reserved for future use.

Let’s look at some of their past nos
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Then the mining crisis happened

One of the few honest company in mining

Only Mining Lessee to have been awarded 5 Star rating in the state of Karnataka and one of 3 in the Country to have got 5 Star rating

SC allowed category A mines to operate with a cap on production. This cap is being relaxed gradually.

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Why it could be interesting now?

Financials - https://www.screener.in/company/504918/

To Summarize:

  • At Mcap of 700 Cr
  • Stock trading at 5 PE
  • Profits for last 3 years - 56 Cr, 107 Cr, 142 Cr
  • Business generates high margins and free cash flows. Co is debt free with cash on balance sheet
  • Optionality of substantial increase in operations
  • Expansion of 400-500 Cr underway - co investing into Coke Oven plan, ferro alloys etc as forward integration

Negatives:

  • Highly volatile commodity
  • Regulated by Govt. Strange rules in Karnataka
  • Major expansion into steel in coming years

Disclosure:
I am a SEBI registered RA and founder of www.intelsense.in. I have no current investments in this stock, neither have I recommended it to my members. However, I may do so in the future. Please do your own due diligence before deciding to invest. This post is for educational purposes only.

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My pics in Pharma Sector for Long Term

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@acepicker wrote:

Hi,

I am new to this forums and investing since last 2 year. I have checked out some pharma companies to buy for long term hold (5-10 years or even more).

I have not invested in any of them yet so please need your honest opinion before I make any investment decision.

P & G Health
Debt: 0.00 Cr
Stock P/E: 8.61
ROCE: 78.16 %
ROE: 73.25 %
Sales Growth (3Yrs): -3.32 %
Dividend Yield: 9.96 %
Promoter holding: 51.82 %

Pfizer
Debt: 2.50 Cr
Stock P/E: 32.75
ROCE: 23.22 %
ROE: 15.07 %
Sales Growth (3Yrs): 1.13 %
Dividend Yield: 0.70 %
Promoter holding: 63.92 %

Divis Labs
Debt: 105.60 Cr
Stock P/E: 34.59
ROCE: 27.66 %
ROE: 20.32 %
Sales Growth (3Yrs): 9.47 %
Dividend Yield: 0.92 %
Promoter holding: 52.01 %

Thyrocare
Debt: 0.00 Cr
Stock P/E: 26.74
ROCE: 31.25 %
ROE: 20.21 %
Sales Growth (3Yrs): 16.34 %
Dividend Yield: 3.95 %
Promoter holding: 65.95 %

Suven Life Science
Debt: 38.02 Cr
Stock P/E: 47.32
ROCE: 16.95 %
ROE: 9.44 %
Sales Growth (3Yrs): 9.93 %
Dividend Yield: 0.53 %
Promoter holding: 60.00 %

Glaxosmithkline Pharmaceuticals Ltd
Debt: 0.58 Cr
Stock P/E: 55.01
ROCE: 31.15 %
ROE: 19.96 %
Sales Growth (3Yrs): 3.45 %
Dividend Yield: 1.39 %
Promoter holding: 75.00 %

Thanks.

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Kotak Mahindra Bank - Low Cost Liability Banking Franchise

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@lingalarahul7 wrote:

Kotak is a well known bank across the country. Since there is no existing thread, I would like to take the opportunity to create one.

Key banking numbers in FY19:

PAT Margins: 17%
RoA: 1.7%
CASA Deposits Ratio: 52.4%
Govt Securities in Investments: 81.6%
Unsecured Loans: 23.8%
Priority Sector Loans: 35.1%
NIM: 4.48%
GNPA: 2.14%
NNPA: 0.75%

For more numbers, please allow me to quote screener: https://www.screener.in/company/KOTAKBANK/consolidated/

Management:

Uday Kotak who owns about 30% of the bank is leading the bank full on. His wording in ARs and Conf calls suggest he is fully committed to its long-term prosperity. A step further is to notice that he bought out the minority shareholders in Life Insurance business and all the non-banking subsidiaries are now 100% owned by the bank. He is also fighting with RBI in court to retain his ownership in the bank. If one goes through the conf calls, it is easy to observe that Uday Kotak is quite cautious in nature, going slowly when trying out something new (like ARC, Consumer durable) and slowly increasing their growth in that as they learn that segment.

Another important point to notice is most of the senior management professionals have been with the bank since 1990s which demonstrates their commitment to the bank, its leader, culture and prosperity.

Liabilities:

Regular customers - These customers typically belong to mass affluent segment and have high balances and most of them were acquired during the pre-demonetisation era.

811 customers - 811 campaign was launched after the demonetisation incident to acquire customers digitally. After launching the campaign the company set itself a target to double its customer franchise from 8 million to 16 million in 18 months (from March17 to September18) which it did achieve successfully.

Kotak’s CASA Deposit ratio is industry best at 52.5% and they don’t have a number in mind and would like to achieve as best as possible for that. Important to remember that Kotak also offered higher interest rate for savings deposits till FY19 which is hitting the bottomline by 1000 crores. Uday Kotak says this is the cost they would like to take for building long-term stable liability franchise. Starting FY20, they seem to be decreasing the interest rate here. In Q1FY20, they decreased for savings accounts with balance less than 1 lakh.

According to Uday Kotak, building a stable low cost franchise is the toughest part of building a financial services firm. He clearly stated that this is his top priority over everything else and his team is fully committed to go as far as possible in this aspect.

Deposits 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014
Demand Deposits - From Banks 3685.3 4031.4 3839.9 3951.4 2551.4 1710
Demand Deposits - From Others 385324.3 318426.2 273768 228865.3 129262 85698.2
Demand Deposits - Total 389009.6 322457.6 277607.9 232816.7 131813.4 87408.2
Savings Bank Deposits 796847.1 655292 415039.3 294947.2 140361.1 100870.5
Term Deposits - From Banks 630.8 13446.9 5776.8 7476.2 10575.5 6103.6
Term Deposits - From Others 1072316.1 935236 875834.7 851190 465853.1 396341.1
Term Deposits - Total 1072946.9 948682.9 881611.5 858666.2 476428.6 402444.7
Total Deposits 2258803.6 1926432.5 1574258.7 1386430.1 748603.1 590723.4
CASA Deposits Ratio 0.5249 0.5075 0.4399 0.3806 0.3635 0.3187

Assets:

Corporate Banking - 30% of Assets (stable across years)

Kotak is growing at 20% in this area and would like to keep it that way. Based on management commentary, it sounds like they can grow at faster rate than this if they want to but however would like to limit themselves to 20%. Important to remember that banks with heavy exposure to corporate / wholesale banking are those with highest NPAs. There is a study by PwC on this area. Please find that attached here: banking_profitability.pdf (629.6 KB)

Corporate loan book contains about 60% working capital, 40% term out of which around 25% will be what we call the long term about 3 year plus loans. So it is largely medium term and short term oriented book.

Home Loans and LAP - 20% of Assets (used to be ~25% few years back)

Though home loans is considered to be one of the safest loan asset, there are some evil practices going on in the LAP area. The collateral valuers of LAP (or any other collateral) are not regulated / monitored and typically quoting very high value of what they actually should. The bank is cautious in this area and has developed relying on internal mechanisms to judge about the same.

Agriculture Division - 13% of Assets (used to be ~20% few years back)

The bank slowed down in this area too and again due to some bad practices. Apparently farmers don’t have to pay any amount to the bank for the first year after they receive a crop loan. Lots of people, especially in Punjab, are exploiting this law by just taking loan on land by claiming it as crop loan. And that too in big ticket size. Essentially, it is LAP disguised as crop loans to avail its benefits. So the bank has slowed down quite a bit here too and decreased its exposure. Actually, most of the existing exposure has come from ING Vysya bank when they were merged.

Another thing the bank has done is to increase its market share in tractor financing. Kotak bank is the best in tractor financing and have been increasing their share significantly to meet the Agri target.

CVs & CEs - 10% of Assets (stable across years)

This was slowed down during the period of 2011-12 due to some bad practices which were openly called out by the management. Once it is resolved after the slowdown in 2013-14, the company seems to be growing this portfolio at 20%

Business Banking - 10% of Assets (used to be ~20% few years back)

This portfolio is also slowed down due to bad practices. Again the same story of collateral valuation mismanagement. The NPA probability of SMEs is a bit higher as compared to other loans. But when the bankers go to collect the collateral, it is typically observed that the defaulter is vanished, his equipment also sometimes and the value of the factory is a fraction of what the independent collateral valuer valued it for. So this portfolio is also intentionally slowed down by the management.

Small Business, Personal Loans & CCs - 16% of Assets (used to be almost 0% few years back)

This is fast increasing as this segment is highly underpenetrated. Analysts did ask that the income levels of people is not growing at this rate and how are we comfortable growing this segment at such rates and the answer was underpenetration.

Other Loans - 2% of Assets

Advances 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014
Corporate Banking 618887 521333 417031 346965 202995 143773
Home Loans and LAP 407216 324294 261209 230094 147087 120994
Agriculture Division 269915 229156 189687 179929 121058 104681
CVs & CEs 197058 152017 108270 74633 52040 54412
Business Banking 182154 182690 178841 233181 64216 53879
Small Business, Personal loans & CCs 331642 251292 173865 96268 62628 4320
Other Loans 50076 36397 31918 22853 11583 6217
Total Advances 2056948 1697179 1360821 1183923 661607 488276

Asset Liability Mismatch:

Reasonable amount of mismatch during the periods of 3 months to 6 months; 6 months to 1 year and 1 year to 3 years. I’m not sure if this is a big concern. Request experienced people to guide on that.

ALM (crores)
2019 2018 2017 2016
1 day - Assets 11561.86 14093.59 17535.32 13314.5
1 day - Liabilities 6604.18 5795.79 4993.39 1478.91
Cum Diff 4957.68 8297.8 12541.93 11835.59
2 to 7 days - Assets 15393.87 9484.21 6052.64 8249.24
2 to 7 days - Liabilities 17712.73 11501.91 13218.02 11403.61
Cum Diff 2638.82 6280.1 5376.55 8681.22
8 to 14 days - Assets 3766.22 4630.57 4128.86 4840.51
8 to 14 days - Liabilities 4743.57 4526.37 3296.55 10007.56
Cum Diff 1661.47 6384.3 6208.86 3514.17
15 to 28 days - Assets 8113.85 8402.84 5310.05 6778.39
15 to 28 days - Liabilities 4551.87 6914.95 6017.64 5480.13
Cum Diff 5223.45 7872.19 5501.27 4812.43
29 days to 3 months - Assets 27451.79 23450.52 20518.54 21089.26
29 days to 3 months - Liabilities 35230.54 32005.44 26403.64 30254.4
Cum Diff -2555.3 -682.73 -383.83 -4352.71
3 to 6 months - Assets 23774.75 17740.54 15457.5 13501.25
3 to 6 months - Liabilities 38008.35 33584.26 30937.76 30338.5
Cum Diff -16788.9 -16526.45 -15864.09 -21189.96
6 months to 1 year - Assets 22997.73 20459.17 12472.42 15893.62
6 months to 1 year - Liabilities 38483.56 29938.59 22618.66 25229.8
Cum Diff -32274.73 -26005.87 -26010.33 -30526.14
1 year to 3 years - Assets 118425.33 98397.76 73888.59 61929.7
1 year to 3 years - Liabilities 127012.12 101434.67 77771.76 47126.85
Cum Diff -40861.52 -29042.78 -29893.5 -15723.29
3 years to 5 years - Assets 27546.99 23668.19 14736.43 14084.42
3 years to 5 years - Liabilities 4073.05 4430.1 2577.12 9705.03
Cum Diff -17387.58 -9804.69 -17734.19 -11343.9
> 5 years - Assets 33786.81 25527.66 19921.14 18858.86
> 5 years - Liabilities 480.56 378.83 971.77 2739.47
Cum Diff 15918.67 15344.14 1215.18 4775.49

Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Company:

KMAMC is the asset management arm of the bank. It is well acknowledged that the asset management industry is highly underpenetrated. I think one can go through HDFC AMC thread to find out more details about this industry. I’m putting down some numbers for people to quickly get to speed.

KMAMC Financials 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014
Income (crores) 655 518.9 291.2 240 125.4 166.1
PBT (crores) 337.1 124.5 58.6 71.9 -35.9 49.6
PAT (crores) 218.1 81.2 38.2 59.3 -36.2 33.4
KMAMC Other Numbers 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014
Equity AUM (crores) 54830 44475 19922 13666 6450 3107
Debt AUM (crores) 83385 70924 57169 41079 32137 32582
Total AUM (crores) 138215 115399 77091 54745 38587 35689
Market share (Net Equity Inflows) 5.20% 5%
Market share (Total Equity) 3.70% 2.40% 1.80% 1.30%

Kotak Life Insurance:

This is the Life Insurance arm of the bank. Again, I would not like to clutter the first post with too much info on subsidiaries. So just putting some numbers and will come back on details of the subsidiary in later posts.

KLI Numbers (crores) 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014
Gross Premium Income 8168.3 6598.7 5139.5 3971.7 3038.1 2700.8
First-year premium 3977.1 3404.2 2849.7 2209.7 1540.2 1271.8
PBT - Shareholders’ account 590.8 471.2 342.7 281.9 261.2 261.2
PAT - Shareholders’ account 507.2 413.4 303.3 250.7 228.9 239.1
KLI Premium Mix 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015
Individual regular premium 1616.2 1530.4 1176.2 925 602.3
Individual single premium 515.4 441.5 260.4 138.8 147.1
Group regular premium 1845.5 1432.4 1413.1 721.7 459.1
Group single premium 0 0 0 424.2 331.7
Total new business premium 3977.1 3404.3 2849.7 2209.7 1540.2
Renewal premium 4191.2 3194.5 2289.8 1762 1497.9
Gross premium 8168.3 6598.8 5139.5 3971.7 3038.1
New Business Premium Growth % 0.16825 0.19461 0.28963 0.43468 0.21103
Renewal Premium Growth % 0.31200 0.39510 0.29954 0.17631 0.04821
KLI Other Numbers 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015
Cost Analysis 16.30% 16.80% 18.10% 20% 22%
AUM (crores) 30310 25133 20940 16936 15219
Claims Settlement Ratio 99% 99.30% 99.50% 98.80% 98.30%
Market Share (of Private) 5.80% 6.20% 5.97% 4.40%
Solvency Ratio 3.02 3.05 3 3.11 3.13
AUM Growth Rate 0.2059 0.2002 0.2364 0.1128 0.2573

There are other subsidiaries which are owned by the bank too which are quite small. Kotak Mahindra Prime is a reasonably sized one which gives Auto loans and recently starting consumer durable loans. I will write follow up posts on the subsidiaries in the following months to come.

Investment Case:

  1. PSU Banks and NBFCs are struggling and this is to benefit well-run private banks. This will also help bring back appropriate pricing into the industry increasing the margins. High CASA deposit ratio of Kotak is going to help them give industry leading margins
  2. Kotak has more than doubled its customer base over the past two years after demonetisation using 811 initiative. However, the new customers are of low balances. The management is now looking to cross-sell products to these customers and increase their revenues
  3. Kotak’s savings deposits used to offer higher interest compared to other banks. This has helped them increase their CASA deposits by mind-boggling growth rates. Kotak is now decreasing this interest rate which is helping them increase their margins and this is coming while maintaining (in-fact increasing) their CASA deposit ratio. You can observe that PBT margins have improved in H2FY20
  4. Non-banking financial businesses like Life Insurance and AMCs are doing very well. I believe the under-penetration of these industries well discussed across various threads now. No plans for management to spin them off and list them but still should help contribute to bottom-line of the consolidated company

Risks / Concerns / Questions:

  1. Asset Liability Mismatch during the periods of 3 months to 6 months; 6 months to 1 year; and 1 year to 3 years. Bank might be borrowing some funds when those periods occur during the year and using those to clear the liabilities. But is this sustainable?
  2. Very low (though increasing) penetration in credit cards. HDFC is bang-on in this area. People typically maintain higher balance in the bank of which you own the credit card. So wondering if that will hit the CASA deposit ratio of Kotak going forward
  3. Why did the bank merge itself with ING Vysya Bank?
  4. Tail risk, like for any financial company. You lend today but realize only few years later that it is a bad loan
  5. High valuation

Discl: No holdings. Recently started looking up. Planning to follow the company closely. This is not a buy / sell recommendation. Investors are required to do their own due diligence before taking any decision. All of the above information is public and available on Kotak Mahindra Bank website.

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Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. - a federation!

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About:
Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., a mobility products and farm solutions provider, is the flagship Company of the Mahindra Group. They offer a wide range of products and solutions ranging from SUVs to electric vehicles, pickups, commercial vehicles, tractors, two-wheelers, construction equipment.

BUSINESS PRESENCE IN 100+ COUNTRIES WITH 49% REVENUE FROM OUTSIDE INDIA

Management thought process:

“It is tempting to see the “group” as a conglomerate, but Mahindra prefers to call it a “federation” where each company is ring-fenced from the damage failure elsewhere can do, even while being free to finance its own growth and make its own mistakes.” Federation outlook of Mr. Mahindra.

Business:
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My thoughts:

  1. In terms of EV, I find Treo auto can be a game-changer for M&M. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvbn8LCw_ao
  2. Ford JV seems to be a win-win deal though we need to see if it succeeds. Previous automobile JV didn’t work out well for M&M as well as Renault.
  3. Roxor can help M&M gain a foothold and establish the brand in the US auto space. But again, we need to track further product launches of the company in the US w.r.t automobiles.
  4. Scorpio & XUV500 were quite successful models. Marazzo seems to be struggling as it competes with Maruti Ertiga. M&M needs to come up with a few competitive models and gain market share. I have lately observed Creta & Venue being preferred by SUV buyers.
  5. With the present government having the intent to increase farmer income, a policy aimed at achieving the same can be a big boost to tractors and farm industry.
  6. Corporate governance is top-notch in my opinion.
  7. Meru acquisition and shared mobility are also part of M&M strategy.
  8. Though sometimes I feel they have spread themselves quite a lot, it can be an issue or not, I am unsure.
  9. Jawa has grabbed customer attention, current waiting time is a problem, going forward this can be reduced with proper mfg operation in place. Two-wheeler space with Jawa models can give a thrust to not so good numbers of M&M 2W.

Shareholding Pattern:

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Quarter Ending September 2019

Stock Trend:

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References:

  1. https://www.mahindra.com/resources/investor-reports/FY20/Announcements/M-M-Integrated-Annual-Report-2018-19.pdf
  2. http://www.forbesindia.com/article/leaderhip-awards-2013/anand-mahindra-the-federator/36375/1
  3. https://www.tijorifinance.com/company/mahindra-mahindra-limited#sector
  4. https://trendlyne.com/equity/share-holding/807/M&M/latest/mahindra-mahindra-ltd/

PS: This is my first post and I am a newbie to stock markets! Request to VP members to share feedback!

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Asahi India Glass Limited (AIS)

Company Background

Asahi India Glass Limited (AIS) is one of the largest integrated glass solutions company in India and the biggest player in the automotive glass market and the second largest player in the float glass market. It has a market share of over 75% in the automotive passenger vehicle glass market and is a supplier to all the major automobile companies.

The company ventured into float glass business in 2001 through acquisition of Flat Glass India Limited in 2001. Subsequently in 2003 the company was merged with Asahi India Glass.

The company is present in the following segments:

  • Automotive glass products : The various types of glass range from laminated windshields, tempered glass for sidelites and backlites to a range of value-added glasses like Solar control, Acoustic, De-fogger, Head-up display, etc…
  • Architectural glass products : The architectural product range includes clear, tinted, solar control & heat reflective glass, mirrors, frosted and back painted glass, along with a range of value added solutions in privacy, safety and acoustics.
  • AIS Windshield Expert : India’s first and largest car windscreen repair & replacement network in India with presence across 45+ cities with 90+ conveniently located service centers.
  • AIS Glasxperts : The company provides of lifestyle solutions in glass whose offerings span privacy, aesthetics, security, acoustic, energy-efficiency and door and window solutions.
  • AIS Windows : A range of High Performance uPVC, wood and aluminium door and window solutions that include Acoustic, Privacy, Energy efficiency and Safety & Security solutions.

Business Model

  • The glass market is entirely B2B at present. The two segments in which AIS operates work differently:
    • Architectural Glass: Higher competition and fight for volumes
    • Automotive Glass: Lower competition and strict minimum quality requirements
  • The key raw materials in making float & automotive glass include
    • Silica Sand
    • Limestone & Soda Ash
    • Power & Fuel
    • Poly vinyl Butyral
  • The company has five float glass plants as following:
  • Bawal (Haryana)
  • Roorkee (Uttarakhand)
  • Chennai (Tamil Nadu)
  • Taloja (Maharashtra)
  • Patan (Gujarat)

Segmental Overview

  • The company operates in two segments
    • Automotive Glass
    • Float Glass
  • As on March 2019 the segmental contribution from the two segments is as presented below
    • Automotive: 60%
    • Float Glass: 39%
  • The historical revenues from the following segments have been attached in the sheet below

Subsidiaries

  • The management has been talking about setting up a B2C business through its subsidiaries since 2010
  • It operates in the B2C segment through the following subsidiaries named:
    • AIS Glass Solutions Limited
    • GX Glass Sales & Services Private Limited
    • Integrated Glass Materials Inc.
  • The performance of these subsidiaries is provided in the sheet below:

The performance of these subsidiaries presents a very grim picture over the last 10 years.

Neither have they been able to scale up revenues meaningfully, nor are they profitable.

Promoters

AIS was setup as a joint venture between the Labroo family, Asahi Glass Co. Ltd. And Maruti Suzuki India Limited in 1984. The current shareholding structure stands as per below:

  • Labroo & Family: 20.96%
  • Maruti Suzuki: 11.11%
  • Asahi Glass Co: 22.21%

Promoter Pledge

Of the total promoter holding 6.77% is pledged of which Mr. Sanjay Labroo (MD) and Mr. Brij Mohan Labroo (Chairman) has pledged 46.24% and 11.78% of their shareholding respectively.

Competitors

  • Saint Gobain
  • Gujarat Guardian
  • Sisecam Flat Glass

Industry

  • The automotive and construction industry are the two largest influencers for the glass industry
  • Asahi India Glass is the leader in automotive glass while Saint Gobain is the leader in float glass capacity in India
  • The architectural glass industry comprises of float glass and processing glass. The float glass industry comprises of 5 players while the processing glass industry is highly competitive with over 200 players
  • The float glass industry is expected to grow at a rate of 8-10% from here
  • Two specific concerns for the industry in India remain:
    • Creating minimum standards around energy efficiency in building construction
    • Protecting domestic players from dumping by countries where major costs are heavily subsidised
  • The technology for tempering glass through toughening is a freely available technology requiring very small investment and hence many small players have appeared for the same
  • The automotive glass market is expected to grow at a rate similar to automobile growth rate in India
  • Since power & fuel is a major raw material for making glass the company continues to face threat from imports out of countries where power cost is cheap
  • The company seems to have limited pricing power . Here is what the management mentioned in the Annual Report of 2013

“The costs increased by over 50% over last 3 years. However the industry could only increase selling price by 10%.”

Capital History

  • The company has never diluted equity to raise external capital throughout its entire history of operations
  • The company has issued bonus shares 3 times in 1997, 2001 and 2005
  • There was an amalgamation in 2003 that led to share capital increasing by 59.63 lakh shares
  • There was a rights issue in 2013 to provide equity support to the company

Here is what the promoter had mentioned in the annual report of 2014:

“We have invested for growth from the beginning using debt to conserve equity , but within judicious parameters, which could be sustained by our performance. Maybe our track record of 20+ years, duly adjusted for a conservative outlook, gave us the confidence to continue as in the past in this most capital intensive industry.”

Debt

The management had mentioned in 2010 that it will use debt consciously. However due to capital intensive nature of business debt will always remain on company’s books

Auditors

The auditors of the company “VSSA & Associates” are auditors to two other listed companies:

  • ISF Limited
  • Perfectpac Limited

Capacity Expansion History

  • The company has recently commissioned a new truck and bus furnace in Chennai.
  • The company is setting up a sub assembly unit in Andhra Pradesh for Kia Motors
  • In 2018 the company completed the refurbishment of its Taloja plant with a cold repair of the furnace
  • In 2004 the company had embarked upon a capacity expansion of Rs 1100 crores
  • Capacity addition under 2004 capex
    • Auto plant at Chennai
    • Auto plant at Roorkee
    • Expansion of automotive capacities at Bawal
    • Float Glass plant at Roorkee
    • Processed glass capacities at Chennai, Bawal, Roorkee & Taloja
  • Recently it has setup an automotive glass plant in Gujarat to cater exclusively for Maruti at a cost of Rs 600 crores.

Troubles

The company had gone for a major capacity expansion in during 2004-07 period and in 2008 when the global economy collapsed the company had gone into losses due to excess leverage

Financials

Here are my observations on the detailed financials of the company:

  • The company has grown sales at a CAGR of 15.5% over the last 22 years

  • The company was posting losses on a net level during 2009-2014. This was due to interest burden, forex losses on ECB loan and lower capacity utilisation

  • Post 2014 the EPS is up by 4 times while the company has also started paying off dividends since 2017

  • The net margins have gone from 2.4% to 6.6% from 2015 – 2019. The company posted losses in four out of six years from 2009-2014. Prior to that net margins were positive but volatile

  • The company’s ROE have been in double digits since 2015 post which it started making profit’s on a net level

  • The company has spent Rs 1242 crores on capex over 2016-2019. Similarly the company had spent Rs 1451 crores on capex over 2005-09

  • The company’s cumulative CFO during 2005-09 when it had spent Rs 1451 crores on capacity additions was Rs 187 crores while during 2016 – 2019 the company has generated cumulative CFO of Rs 1516 crores and spent Rs 1242 crores on capex

  • The share capital increased in 2014 due to a rights issue when the company raised Rs 250 crores to reduce debt on balance sheet

  • The capacity addition during 2005-09 was done via External Commercial Borrowings and subsequent devaluation of rupee resulted into forex losses for the company

  • Since 1997:

    • Cumulative EBITDA: Rs 4216 crores
    • Cumulative cash flow from operations: Rs 2458 crores
    • Cumulative Capex: Rs 3393 crores
    • Cumulative Free Cash Flow: Rs 919 crores (Negative)
  • Cash Flow

    • The company’s operating cash flow looks much improved since 2017 partly because of good operational profitability and partly because it stopped deducting interest expenditure from operational cash flows and started deducting it under financing
  • Working Capital

    • The business operates on average working capital of around 20% to sales for over two decades
  • A detailed working of the financials is provided in the sheet below

Gross Margins

The gross margin profile has been updated in the sheet below

Dividends

  • The company had not paid any dividends during 2008-2015 when it was facing financial trouble
  • It restarted dividends from 2016

Peers

Since Saint Gobain is the biggest peer for Asahi India I have collated major points said by the Saint Gobain management about the float glass industry in India

  • The company has spent Rs 1200 crores for setting up a new float glass unit and aims to grow sales by 10% over next 10 years
  • India offers great long term prospects as consumption of glass is very low
  • With addition of new capacity the company will now have total capacity of 140 million sq foot of glass
  • In 2018 the company clocked sales of Rs 7000 crores

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/saint-gobain-invests-1200-cr-in-3-projects/article26114039.ece January 2019

  • The Indian operations currently contribute less than 1% of the global turnover of the company
  • Started own manufacturing facility in the country in 2000 with a float glass plant in Chennai
  • The company has a market share of 50% in the float glass market with the rest 50% divided amongst the rest four players
  • Market size in India for float glass is 2 million tonnes and growing at 7-8% annum

https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/saint-gobain-is-fast-moving-into-the-b2c-space-will-it-succeed-119021000629_1.html February 2019

Saint Gobain will set up a float glass unit in Vizag with investments of over Rs 2000 crores

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/saint-gobain-setting-up-glass-unit-in-vizag/article26482041.ece March 2019

  • India is fastest glass market in the world and the company estimates to grow its revenue by 8% in a decade
  • About 60% of Saint Gobain’s revenue from India comes from flat glass business

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/corporate/saint-gobain-to-invest-over-rs-5000-crore-in-flat-glass-business-in-2018-says-b-santhanam/story/273050.html March 2018

  • India is the number one priority for Saint Gobain, even more than China
  • Over the last 3 years the company has spent all of its profits into capex in the country

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/indl-goods/svs/paper-/-wood-/-glass/-plastic/-marbles/indias-growth-picture-is-as-clear-as-glass-for-saint-gobain/articleshow/62926640.cms Feb 2018

  • Expanding facilities in Chennai and adding another float glass line
  • The expansion will lead to a 35% increase in capacity and take the total capacity to 1.2 million tonne
  • The company is planning to offer more solutions for automotive and architectural products
  • The Indian glass market is growing at 8%
  • The Indian facility has become very big so some value added products are being exported to other countries as well

https://www.cnbctv18.com/retail/indias-glass-market-growing-only-at-8-percent-saint-gobain-to-focus-on-automotive-and-architectural-solutions-says-ceo-2199311.htm February 2019

Future Plans

  • Creating more product for commercial vehicles like railways, off highway vehicles, trucks, city trains and tractors
  • The company has spent Rs 600 crores on its new automotive plant in Gujarat which will cater to Maruti and have capacity of 2.4 million windshields and tempered glass each at full capacity
  • The company continues to face huge competition from peers who also see demand rising and have been adding capacities to benefit from the same

News

  • Government has initiated a probe into alleged subsidy in a particular glass category called clear float glass from Malaysia
  • The probe is looking into how much is the domestic industry being impacted by subsidies and if found true would recommend countervailing duties on imports from Malaysia
  • Companies in India filing the issue
    • Asahi India Glass
    • Saint Gobain
    • Sisecam Flat Glass India
    • Gold Plus Glass Industry

https://www.news18.com/news/business/india-starts-probe-into-alleged-subsidy-on-clear-float-glass-by-malaysia-2339089.html October 2019

  • Gautam Thapar (CG Power) a close friend of Asahi India CEO Sanjay Labroo who was his junior in Doon School and is also on board of BILT
  • He is also a close friend of Tarun Tahiliani who is also in the promoter list of Asahi India Glass

https://www.outlookbusiness.com/the-big-story/lead-story/fall-from-grace-5399 September 2019

  • Asahi India Glass forms a JV with some industry executives to acquire precision engineering business of Timex Group
  • The JV will be named Scopofy Components Pvt Ltd.

https://www.vccircle.com/asahi-india-glass-forms-jv-to-acquire-timex-unit/ December 2017

  • Investment of Rs 700 crores planned till 2022 of which Rs 550 crores will be for new plant in Gujarat
  • In phase one plant will have capacity of 1.2 million units and by next phase the plant will have capacity of 2.4 million which will be completed by 2022
  • The company intends to have a capacity of 8 million units by 2022

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/asahi-india-glass-to-invest-rs-700-crore-in-next-five-years/articleshow/60427017.cms September 2017

  • Asahi Glass to buyout Indian partner’s stake in the company to take a majority stake
  • The deal is expected to happen between Rs 475-525 per share
  • Both the promoters currently hold equal stake in the company at 22% each. The Indian partners hold the stake in multiple individual names

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/asahi-glass-in-talks-to-buy-out-partner-labroo-in-indian-jv/articleshow/60519694.cms September 2017

Disclaimer: No holdings in the stock. This is an introduction post on the company. Have started evaluating considering the recent fall in the stock price and the strong MNC parentage and leadership position in automotive segment. All the financials have been taken from Ace Equity database.

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Bharthi Infratel - oligopoly Market Emerging?

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@Scorpio24 wrote:

Friends,

I see that there is value emerging in Bharti Infra Limited at the current market price of INR 202.
Any one tracking the counter?

Reasons for being bullish

  1. Data consumption will only go up from here, and important factor for this success will be the telecom towers.

  2. Deals with KKR or Other PE firm (I think Brookfields) was done at a higher amount.

  3. Pricing power will come back to telecom sooner than later, this Jio let pricing war will come to end in the next few quarters. I feel maximum of 4-6 quarters.

Please share your thoughts.

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The Indian wood products company ltd

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If one travels in the parts of northern n central India one common thing comes in habit of eating is PAN MASALA.Based on this i found an intersting proxy player to pan masala manufacturing .The significant raw material used in manufacturing pan masala is Katha.This Kolkata based katha co. came into existence on bse from direct listing window hence unknown n hidden to retails.Co is The indian wood products company ltd (IWP).

Promoter Experience: The company has around 100 years of operational track record in manufacturing catechu. The company’s promoter has more than 35 years of experience in the same line of business.

COMPANY PROFILE

Incorporated in 1919, IWP was promoted by Mr. H.N. Gladstone, Mr. H. Bateson, Mr. E.H. Bbray, among others. The company is limited by shares under the Companies Act, 1913 with the sole objective to manufacture catechu. It has a manufacturing facility in Izatnagar, Bareilly, Uttar Pradesh. The manufacturing activities started in 1920. In 1980, Mr. K. K. Mohta acquired the controlling interest in the company by the transfer of shares. The company is listed on BSE.

Established Customer Base: IWP generates 75% of its revenue from pan masala manufacturers. The company’s customers include renowned brands such as Rajnigandha, Pan Bahar, Pan Vilas, Vimal, Goa, Dilbagh, Jayanth, Wah, Lingraj, Aashiqi, Mohini, Zafri, Nazar, JM Super, among others. The remaining 25% is generated through the retail segment. As of June 2018, the company had 15-20 distributors, spread across Delhi, Bikaner, Churu, Varanasi, Hyderabad, West Bengal, among others.

The company has a production capacity of 4626 metric tonne per annum (MTPA) of katha and 2,000 MTPA of cutch, a
by-product of katha manufacture. The company sells its products under the brand name, IWP.

IWP’s operating margins improved in FY18 to 14.6% (FY17: 12.9%) on account of a shift in the focus towards producing timber-based catechu which is more profitable than traditional catechu.

IWP’s credit metrics remain strong on back of the growth in top line and healthy profitability. Net financial leverage (net debt/EBITDA) was 1.2x in FY18 (FY17: 2.0x) and interest coverage was 6.2x (7.5x). The net leverage improved in FY18 because of a rise in the operating EBITDA margin along with scheduled term loan repayments. However, the interest coverage declined marginally in FY18 due to an increase in short-term borrowings, availed to fund its increased working capital requirements, leading to an increase in the financial expenses.

The company has acquired an industrial plot for
Rs. 2.5-crore in Kathua, Jammu & Kashmir to establish a new katha manufacturing unit. This project would require an
additional Rs. 5-6 crore in the medium term.

This is just a intial basic analysis to keep a tracking of Co’s performance.I m not a sebi registered advisor.Hence this is not to be construed as buy/sell recommendation.
Anyone interested can analyse complete financial on bse site.
Co is thinly traded as it has tiny equity n listed only on bse

all kinds of comments r welcomed

disclosure: holding some qty

all the data has been compiled from publicly avlbl resources such as AR,co site,rating agency reports,etc

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Various media reports are stating that Burger King has filed for a 400 cr. IPO and DRHP with SEBI. However, Can’t seem to find anything on SEBI’s website. Any one can say how do media companies get the DRHP without even checking the SEBI site?

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CESC Ventures - Demerger special situation

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@sarangg wrote:

Disclaimer: This report is the work of an investment adviser affiliated with the author. The report is the result of the adviser executing its investment strategy. The adviser holds a position in the security, however there is no assurance that the adviser will continue to hold the investment, or make additional investments and will not update the information to reflect future changes in the adviser’s assessment of the investment.

CESC Ventures (CESCV IN)

Non-fundamental selling and challenging market conditions create an opportunity for value minded long term investors

CESC Ventures was spun out of CESC Ltd earlier this year and has sold off since listing due to forced selling by mutual funds constrained by SEBI regulation on large/mid/small cap categorization in a tough overall period for small cap investors.

At least 18% of the company or 36% of the non-promoter shareholding was sold in the open market after the spinoff by large price insensitive mutual funds like HDFC Mutual Fund (18%), ICICI Mutual Fund (6.2%) and others. Actual spin-off related selling is probably higher given that ~75% of the named (largest) pre-spin shareholders exited.

Large discount to Net Asset Value

CESC Ventures trades at a 76% discount to fair “net asset value” on a SOTP Basis.

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On a look through basis, CESC Ventures trades at a 20% FCF yield ex-FMCG if you assume FirstSource (FSOL) pays out ~50% of NI as dividends to CESC Ventures. Median HoldCo discounts in India are around 30% for active controlling stakes (i.e. Holding companies that actively turn over their portfolio by buying/selling assets) and sub-70% for non-controlling stakes. It is very rare to find HoldCos at discounts of 80% and HoldCos with this level of discount typically have corporate governance problems.

With that in mind, based on our work we think that it is unlikely that CESC Ventures’s HoldCo discount will widen further. On the other hand, if the FMCG business succeeds in doubling its revenues, is spun out, and trades at a 6x revenue multiple in line with peers, CESC Ventures could offer 10x upside from current levels over the next 5 years.

FMCG business - source of non-linear upside

The FMCG business, TooYumm, is headed by ex-McKinsey partner Suhail Sameer and the group plans to separately list the FMCG business once it reaches scale. CESC Ventures plans on using the cashflow generated from its mall in Kolkata and dividends from FirstSource to fund growth for TooYumm, which has grown to over 200cr in annual sales since its founding in 2017.

BPO business and Real Estate – underappreciated, steady cash-generative assets protecting downside

Since FSOL is publicly traded we won’t analyze it in detail, but we believe that FSOL could be an underappreciated source of upside and expect EBITDA to grow at a low double-digit pace over the next few years.

FSOL’s high dividend payout should provide a solid floor on the stock, while its modest valuation of ~9x trailing EPS is a large discount to comparable BPOs and leaves room for multiple expansion from currently depressed levels. Over the longer term, we’d expect FSOL to benefit from the increasing consolidation in the sector.

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Quest is the premier mall in east India and has an 8% FCF yield which should grow at 4-5% a year. While Quest is operating at full occupancy (~99%), there is upside from re-pricing of the preliminary contracts signed by tenants when the mall was created. This should cause rents to increase 20-30% over the next few years as leases expire

We believe Sanjiv Goenka is a better capital allocator than the market thinks

Our conversations with other buyside and sell side participants suggest that Mr. Market has a negative view on Goenka’s capital allocation. While CESC’s shareholder returns over the long term have been in-line with indices, CESC has meaningfully outperformed power peers over the last 10 years

While power peers extrapolated the boom seen in power from 2003 to 2007 and engaged in leverage fueled capex to build out power plants, Goenka remained conservative while bidding for new projects. CESC continued to operate at 2-3x Debt/EBITDA while peer median leverage was ~5-6x Debt/EBITDA and the company’s balance sheet was described by analysts as “under-leveraged” and “conservative” at the time. This proved to be a winning strategy as CESC Ventures has meaningfully outperformed peers in its sector, including Reliance Power, Rattan Power, Tata Power, Torrent power, NTPC, and others.

CESC’s non-core investments in FirstSource and Quest Properties (Kolkata Mall and BKC assets) have been homeruns with +334% (CAGR of 23.8% incl. dividends reinvested) and +80% returns (not including interim cashflow) to date.

Even Goenka’s poor investments were driven by industry-wide issues rather than poor execution or high entry valuation. While investors criticize Sanjiv Goenka for the Spencers acquisition in hindsight, there was significant excitement around the stock and CESC greatly outperformed its power peers when Spencers was acquired.

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The valuation paid for Spencers at 1.7x EV/TTM sales was significantly below Future Retail (3.2x)’s and V2Retail (2.9x)’s trading multiple even though the asset was acquired from Sanjiv Goenka himself.

Analysts were bullish on the space and generally applauded CESC’s use of capital into retail.

Spencers did not meaningfully underperform organized retail peers from the period. For example, both Vishal Mega Mart and Subhiksha Retail went bankrupt. Industry wide profitability was extremely lack-luster due to massive overinvestments. Profitability in the space has only started coming back as of late:

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Note how aggregate industry profits were negative until 2016 due to the aggressive competition by existing retail players despite massive revenue growth

Hard catalyst to reduce holdco discount

We believe that the FMCG business will eventually be spun off and will exit the HoldCo. This will provide a hard catalyst for reduction in the HoldCo discount. Sanjiv Goenka has publicly mentioned plans to separate out the business once it reaches maturity in the past. The spinoff of noncore investments at CESC which created the CESCV entity in the first place provides further evidence that Goenka is willing to separate out group companies to maximize value.

Conclusion

We think CESCV offers a very interesting risk-reward skew for investors who are not constrained by market cap and have the 2 to 3 year time horizon: TooYumm is a very young company with dynamic leadership, and it will suffer missteps and pivot business models along the way, even if it is successful at building a lasting FMCG brand in the end. Either TooYumm does so-so/fails and you get your money back, or TooYumm works and CESC Ventures is a multi-bagger as the NAV discount closes, underlying NAV grows, and the market wakes up to CESC Ventures’s demerger/spin-off plans.

Others may also be seeing value as small/mid-cap stock pickers like Ashish Dhawan (personally and through Ellipsis Partners owns 5% of company) and Arvind Khattar (1.2% stake) have been buying shares of CESC Ventures.

Assigning a fair 30% HoldCo discount to CESC Ventures’s net asset value would result in 2.8x MoM or +180% upside and if the FMCG business succeeds and is spun out, CESC Ventures could offer a 10x return over the next 5 years from current levels.

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Polycab India ~ Connection Zindagi Ka - W&C, FMEG and EPC Player

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About Polycab India Ltd.

Established in 1964. Incorporated in January 1996. Listed in April 2019.

Domestic leader of W&C Industry:

86% of revenue [Power cables, control cables, instrumentation, building wires and industrial cables]

  • Polycab (PIL) is a leading player in India’s wires and cables (W&C) industry with ~18% / ~12% market share in the organized / total market.

  • Despite being a highly commoditised and extremely price sensitive segment PIL has able to gain market share due to a robust distribution network, wide product offerings, efficient supply chain management, strong manufacturing capabilities and brand image.

  • W&C revenue growth at a CAGR of 14% from FY15-19.

Quickly scaled FMEG Segment:

8% of revenue [Fans, LED lightings and luminaires, switches, switchgear, solar products, heaters, pumps and electrical conduits]

  • PIL forayed into multiple Fast Moving Electrical Goods (FMEG) product categories from 2014 (FY15) and was therefore required to invest behind manufacturing capabilities, distribution network expansion and brand building exercises; this led to EBIT losses during FY15 and FY16.

  • However, the business attained breakeven in merely three years (FY17) and turned profitable in FY18 with an EBITM of 3% (as per company reporting), showcasing PIL’s strong focus on this space.

  • FMEG revenue increased at a CAGR of 44% over FY16-19.

  • Intends to concentrate on street lighting, agriculture pumps, air purifiers, and water purifiers.

  • It is working on strengthening its after-sales service. As of June 2018, PIL has ~ 230 customer-care franchisees.

Emergent EPC Player

6% of revenue [Projects requiring a large supply of cables, wires, and conductors]

  • PIL entered the engineering, procurement and construction (EPC) business in 2009.

  • It provides electrical turnkey solutions comprising project management, onsite execution and resource management through specialized erectors and financial management.

  • Their solutions are largely provided for the transmission and distribution sectors involving projects in extra high voltage and high voltage levels for various government utilities in India.

  • These projects typically require a large supply of cables, wires and conductors, which they supply.

Competitive Strength

Market Leadership in W&C:

  • Institutional and retail customers in different industries: power, oil & gas, construction, IT parks, infrastructure, metal and cement industries.

  • Customer base is well diversified while none of the customers contributes more than 5% to its topline, which reduces dependency on any single customer.

  • Made-to-stock: based on demand forecasts from customers and/or company sales team.

  • Made-to-order: customized products for varied applications.

Synergistic expansion to FMEG

  • Common raw materials, economies of scale, higher negotiating power.

  • Cost-savings in transportation & distribution

  • Opportunity to cross-sell to a larger customer base.

  • Leverage distribution network across diverse product offerings.

Manufacturing with strong focus on backward integration:

  • PIL has built strong manufacturing capabilities in the W&C and FMEG segments with 24 facilities in operation (3 for FMEG), with stringent control over costs & quality.

  • It has incurred a capex of Rs11bn in the past 5 years, including plants for FMEG. Currently capacity utilization stands between 70-80%. In-house manufacturing will provide flexibility in improving the quality and range of FMEG. Backward integration into polymers, wire rods, cable/wire colors reduces costs and improves the quality which will continue to drive superior growth and margins.

  • Joint venture with Techno Electromech Private Limited (2017), a manufacturer based in Vadodara, Gujarat, to manufacture LED lighting and luminaires.

  • Joint venture with Trafigura Pte Ltd (2016), a commodity trading company, to set up a manufacturing facility in Waghodia (Gujarat), India, to produce copper wire rods.

Strong distributor network:

  • PIL has well entrenched distribution, 2800+ distributors and over 100,000 retailers, with long standing relationships and stickiness, some of them being with them for 3 generations.

  • It has the largest network of 29 warehouses in 20 states & UT, typically located close to distributors, dealers, and direct customers, which enables PIL to mitigate transportation costs.

Exports:

PIL has a presence in 40 countries (5% revenue is from exports); it has received a US$ 143mn order from the international market recently.

Powerful Branding:

  • Over the years, Polycab has evolved from a largely B2B play to a fast-growing B2C
    brand.

  • Advertising and sales promotion expenses increased to 1.4% of sales in FY18 from 0.4% in FY14.

  • Featured in Superbrands of India in 2016, 2017 & 2018.

  • Endorsing Indian Premier League (IPL) since 2016.

  • Brand endorsers are Paresh Rawal, Rajpal Yadav, R Madhavan, Ayushmann Khurrana.

Polycab Wires - Connection Bachat Ka. Connection Zindagi Ka.

Polycab Fans - India ka Naya All Rounder.

Polycab MCB - Bharosa Safe Zindagi ka.

Polycab LED - Afwah nahi, Roshni Phailao.

Experienced and committed management team:

  • PIL‘s success has been, and will continue to be, dependent on its management team. Its management team has collectively many years of entrepreneurial and managerial experience in the electrical products industry and also possesses an extensive network of customer relationships and a deep understanding of its operations, pricing strategies, business development and industry trends.

  • Salary: Highest salary is paid to Inder T Jaisinghani (₹36.54 mil), then Ajay T Jaisinghani & Ramesh T Jaisinghani (₹28.25 mil).

Note:

Comparison with Key competitors.

Channel financing to ease working capital cycle:

  • PIL has high working capital (27% of sales) due to penetrative strategy in FMEG and manufacturing focus.

  • Also the EPC segment serves various sectors with an average working capital of 90-100 days.

  • However, PIL has started channel financing like Havells - the impact of which is already visible in reduction in receivables.

Intends to become debt-free

  • PIL has raised Rs 13.5bn through the IPO. The object of the offer was to 1) scheduled repayment of all or a portion of certain borrowings availed by company, 2) to fund incremental
    working capital requirements of the company.

  • With the IPO funds, improvement in margins, and strong cash flow, PIL expects to become debt-free in 2-3 years.

Credit Rating

CRISIL has assigned its ‘CRISIL AA/Stable/CRISIL A1+’ ratings to the bank loan facilities of Polycab Wires Private Limited (PWPL). [13 July, 2019]

Key Financial Ratios

FY 2019 2018 2017
EPS 35.39 23.35 16.99
BVPS 201.62 166.26 141.94
ROCE 27.9 21.0 15.2
ROE 17.5 15.2 12.0
OPM 12.7 11.7 10.2
NPM 6.24 5.24 4.18
D/E 0.10 0.34 0.43
Current Ratio 1.5 1.58 1.34
Revenue Growth 17.51% 23.09% 6.04%
Net Profit Growth 40.22% 53.79% 24%
BV Growth 20.63 17.76 11.64
Receivable days 60.74 64.49 76.14
Inventory Days 76.97 75.87 75.39
Payable days 30.18 68.53 85.17
Fixed Asset Turnover 4.78 4.77 4.94

P/E: 16.81
P/B: 1.97
Price/Sales: 1.06
EV/EBIT: 9.69
Price/Cash Flow: 6.87
Face Value: 10.00
Promoter holding: 68.69% (No Pledge)
Market Cap: ~ 8500 Cr.
Altman Z-Score: 4.70
Piotroski F-Score: 8
Modified C-Score: 0

Opportunity

  • Various government initiatives to drive cable & wire demand.

  • Increase in organised pie of W&C industry to benefit market leader Polycab in long term.

  • PIL manufactures and sells a diverse portfolio of wires and cables and FMEG, which also gives the opportunity to cross-sell its products to its diverse base of customers.

  • Energy-efficient products gaining traction: Like LED & Energy Efficient Fans.

  • Improving realizations driven by value-added products especially among the younger generation, owing to increasing disposable incomes and evolving preferences.

  • Home improvement cycles in urban areas are shortening on account of rising disposable incomes and changing consumer preferences.

Risks

  • Higher exposure in W&C segment poses business concentration risk.

  • Macroeconomic slowdown can have a material impact on W&C segment.

  • Fluctuations in raw material prices pose a key challenge to the cable and wires industry. Realisation and profitability depend on copper and aluminium commodity prices.

  • Imports of raw materials like copper, aluminium, steel, and insulation materials are exposed to exchange rate fluctuation which can adversely affect the cost, and thus impact margins.

  • Concentration of suppliers of raw materials in a few sources places the business at risk from disruptions in supply.

  • Inability to scale up FMEG business division / lower than expected profitability woing to competitive pressure.

  • Significant increase in WC requirement likely to impact return ratios.

  • Being part of a labor-intensive industry, the company is subject to stringent labor laws and carries a risk of unexpected strike, work stoppage or increased wage demand.

  • Short listed history to understand management ethics towards minority shareholders.

Sources

Disclosure:

No holding, tracking.

This is not a recommendation. Please do your own research. I am a novice & is bound to make mistakes.

This is my first thread on a company. Learned a lot from ValuePickr, learned even more while doing the necessary homework for starting a thread.

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Honeywell Automation - Is this a secular growth story?

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Honeywell Automation is an MNC capital goods company which has various business lines like Process Solutions, Building Solutions, Building Management Systems, Global Services, Global Manufacturing.

Process Solutions Business:

Wide portfolio of industrial automation products and solutions that help customers operate safe, reliable, efficient, sustainable and more profitable facilities. Some new offerings include process control, process safety, process optimization, process simulation, connected IIoT solutions, and industrial cyber security. This business would grow well if thrust for India moving towards gas-based economy increases.

Poor economic environment, slow recovery in industrial production growth over the years are affecting this business’ growth. The company is planning to explore new industries such as pharmaceuticals and specialty chemicals.

Building Solutions Business:

Building management systems, Fire detection and alarm systems, Access control systems, Video surveillance systems, Integrated security systems, Integrated building management systems…

This business has been growing well due improving IT, pharmaceutical and commercial space in the country. The company is also planning to provide value-added services like analytics in this segment.

Building Management Systems Business:

I’m not super sure how exactly this is different from the Buildings Solutions Business but the Annual Report of the company seems to differentiate them both. Some product offerings which fall here are Mechanical PICVs, Variable Frequency drives and Piston type PRVs. The products in this segment serve for verticals like airports, stadiums, metro stations, IT, residential, industrial and hospital buildings. Some new initiatives in this segment include connected buildings.

Sensing and IoT Business:

Pressure sectors, limit switches, construction equipment shifters, pressure switches and basic switches for vehicle body controls. Steady demand for gas instruments and pollution monitoring equipment drove growth for our gas sensor portfolio, and growth in automated vending machines and other automation devices drove our OEM scan engine portfolio. Focused on market verticals such as industrial, transportation, military, aerospace and medical equipment.

Global Services / Manufacturing Business:

This business is mainly focused on delivering high quality products and project solutions right and fast to global Honeywell entities as well as the India market. Honeywell exports these services to non-Honeywell entities too.

Unfortunately, Honeywell doesn’t conduct conference calls and I don’t have deeper insights than what I could get from the Annual Reports. If anyone has ever attended any AGM of this company / tracking from many years, please do share your thoughts on the company.

Past performance of Honeywell Automation has been quite impressive as can be seen in the CAGR numbers below:

Strong Financials:

Current Ratio > 2 consistently
Net Debt is negative. Company has >1500 Rs cash per share.
High ROCE at 30%+ consistently
Negative working capital cycle consistently.

Risks / Concerns / Questions:

  1. Related Party Transactions
    Lots of sales is coming from Related Parties. It is about 28% in FY19 of total sales. The driver for this must be Global Services where operations are pushed to India from US for cost-cutting purposes. This used to be 17% of total sales in FY12 and increasing at 20% CAGR over the past seven years. Total sales were growing at 10% CAGR during this period.
  2. Breakup of revenues across businesses
    Unfortunately no breakup is provided in the annual reports.
  3. Fellow subsidiaries in India
    Lots of fellow subsidiaries in India under Honeywell International. So the parent company may be diverting new business to fully owned entities.
  4. Margins at all time high
    The margins of the company are at all time high at 17.7% (EBITDA). Without much insight into the business, difficult to understand if this is sustainable or not.
  5. Why are travelling and conveyance expenses so high?
    Travelling and conveyance expenses are whopping 7.3% of sales at 236 crores. Unable to comprehend why so much expenditure is needed on travel side for this business. It used to be 5.9% in 2012 and keeps increasing YoY almost consistently.
  6. Businesses like Environmental and Energy solutions, solar water heaters are mentioned in previous annual reports upto FY17 but not in the latest ones. What happened to these businesses?
  7. Prolonged slowdown in private capex
  8. High valuations

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Siemens Ltd - Is growth coming back?

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Siemens Ltd is an MNC Capital Goods company operating in India since 20th century. Its Promoters are Siemens AG based out of Germany and it has 75% holding in the company. It operates businesses in the following lines.

Digital Factory Division:

This division offers software products and automation technologies for industrial applications covering the entire life cycle, from product design and production to after-sales service for discrete manufacturing industries such as automotive, F&B. The Division’s “Digital Enterprise Suite” offers flexibility and efficiency to various discrete industries, general engineering segments and OEMs engaged in machine tools, printing, packaging and electrical panel manufacturing.

The company has launched “Mindsphere” open IoT cloud platform using which various machines / tools in the factory can be connected to the cloud and be operated from there. To understand this further, you can watch below videos:


The company also launched the ‘Ingenuity Tour’, a multi-city tour across India covering 120 cities over a period of two years. The Tour demonstrates the Division’s offerings for the manufacturing industry. On display are products, solutions and digitally-enabled services covering electrification, automation and digitalization.

Sales and Profits from Operations of this division are at 2265 crores and 196 crores respectively in FY18.

Process Industries and Drives:

This division offers a comprehensive portfolio for industrial application and solutions in the field of automation and drives for process industries such as cement and steel. This business is primarily driven by core sector industries.

Sales and Profits from operations of this division are at 1919 crores and 77 crores respectively in FY18.

Building Technologies:

This division provides solutions for safe, secure and energy-efficient infrastructure and buildings. It has solutions for applications such as fire safety, security, building automation, heating, ventilation, air conditioning and energy management. Major contributors to new orders continued to be commercial spaces, life sciences, data centers, IT / ITES and hospitality sectors.

Sales and Profits from operations of this division are at 490 crores and 44 crores respectively in FY18.

Power and Gas:

This division offers products and solutions for reliable, efficient and clean power generation from fossil fuels and for oil & gas applications. The customers include Utilities, IPPs and EPC companies as well as businesses in industries such as oil and gas, sugar and cement.

The Indian power sector is witnessing surplus power equipment manufacturing capacitieis, with thermal power plants still operating at low PLFs. The thermal-based power generation (large gas and steam turbine) continued to face challenges due to various factors such as subdued demand, lower industrial growth, inadequate availability of gas and measures to increase renewable energy.

Sales and Profits from operations of this division are at 1480 crores and 246 crores respectively in FY18.

Energy Management:

This division is a supplier of products, solutions and services for the transmission and distribution of electrical energy. Electrification portfolio ranges from low voltage products for domestic electrification, through products, systems and solutions for electrification of medium voltage distribution and ultra high-voltage transmission grids. Portfolio also covers automation and digitalization products and solutions for all elements of power value chain. Its customers are central and state utilities, private transmission and distribution system operators.

Some solutions here include SCADA. Watch below video to understand further:

Sales and Profits from operations of this division are at 5159 crores and 420 crores respectively in FY18.

Mobility Division:

This division supplies solutions for passenger and freight transportation, including rail vehicles, rail automation and rail electrification systems. This division is benefiting from expansion of Metro Rail market as well as govt initiatives to enhance capacity and improve rail safety which led to acquisition of various projects in both mainline and metro rail segments.

Sales and Profits from operations of this division are at 976 crores and 98 crores respectively in FY18.

Financials:

ROCE: About 20%
Working Capital cycle is not great => 1 month of inventories, 3.5 months of receivables and 3 months of payables.
Current Ratio of 1.9
For further numbers, you can look up screener: https://www.screener.in/company/SIEMENS/

Sales Breakup (millions) 2018 2017 2016
Power and Gas 15432 14387 14161
Energy Management 52905 44337 35243
Building Technologies 4913 4248 3695
Mobility 10516 12423 11241
Digital Factory 23261 19489 17869
Process Industries & Drives 19540 17826 16511
Healthcare 0 0 12754
Others 1386 1324 1129
Total Sales 127953 114034 112603
Power and Gas Growth % 0.07263501772 0.01595932491 -0.09595250255
Energy Management Growth % 0.193247175 0.258037057 0.1744143424
Building Technologies Growth % 0.1565442561 0.149661705 0.2424344317
Digital Factory Growth % 0.1935450767 0.09065980189 0.1327416799
Process Industries & Drives Growth % 0.09615168854 0.07964387378 0.1280317005

What’s happening recently?

  1. Divestment of businesses to parent company. Company has been selling out some of the Indian subsidiary divisions to the parent company / fellow subsidiaries. Some of them include the Healthcare business, mechanical drives business, wind power services business, metal technologies business. This has been going on since last few years. Most of these seem to be small non-growing businesses. It seems Mobility business is also going to be divested as per Director’s Report in AR FY18. This will remove another non-growing business from the listed entity. Meanwhile other growing businesses have become sizeable and after this mobility division divestment happens, we will have a company in which 70%+ of the business will grow at 15%-20% and remaining 30% growing at 5%-10% as pointed by growth rates of various divisions above.
  2. Mindsphere cloud connectivity. Unable to put a number on how big this can become. But looking at the applications possible, seems this can have implications on almost all the factories in the country. And their Ingenuity Tour can help improve their penetration into SME manufacturing too.

Risks / Concerns / Questions:

  1. What’s the reason for the current divestment?
    Unable to understand why promoters are divesting non-growing businesses to self and letting the growing businesses be part of listed entity. This would carry risk of profitable divisions getting divested in the future.
  2. The expenses part of the financial statements include ‘Project bought out and other direct costs’. This forms about 20% of revenues. Not sure what this means at all and how to monitor this.
  3. How does one estimate market size / penetration / long-term potential of these kind of businesses and put a number to them?
  4. Related Party Transactions are high. 12% of Income is derived from related parties over the past few years.
  5. Couldn’t find any entry for Royalty in Other expenses notes. And R&D expenses are very minimal at 0.1% of sales. Where is the tech coming from for Siemens India? Wouldn’t believe that the parent would give away its tech to a listed subsidiary for free.

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SoftTech Engineers Ltd

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I recently attended the AGM of SoftTech Engineers Ltd and following is a short writeup.

SoftTech Engineers Ltd is a product based software company based out of Pune engaged in the field of Architecture, Engineering and Construction Domain. It has a tremendous market share in the Automated Building Permit process through its product AutoDCR ( its investor presentation says 80%). However, there is another Bangalore based co which has a similar product but so far nothing compared to the reach and scale of AutoDCR.

SoftTech was formed in 1997 but was listed recently. Early on in its history it successfully developed and sold Struds (Structural Analysis Design and Detailing Software) and ESRGSR ( Structural Design for Water Tanks) to CSC, UK. CSC was taken over by Trimble, A US-based co based out of California. Trimble is popular for acquiring Sketchup from Google in 2012.

While AutoDCR is well known in the domain, a few months back its name came in the limelight when Ex Mah CM , Mr Devendra Phadnavis mentioned AutoDCR in a discussion.

Without the AutoDCR report building permits cannot be issued. The AutoDCR report is mandatory for the issuance of building permits in local bodies which have AutoDCR installed. Though there is a rule for manual scrutiny. Manual scrutiny takes about 200 manhours and only if there is a serious issue.

In 2019 AutoDCR contributed to 58% of its revenue.

Besides AutoDCR it has several other products chief amongst them are OPTICON ( Its ERP solution) and PWIMS ( Process management for Public Works Departments) which contribute to 6% and 28% of its 2019 revenue. Revenue from other products that are not its own forms 8% ( these primarily come from selling AEC domain products like AutoCAD etc)

Its other products include BIMDCR, Rule Buddy (which is in beta) and IBPS (a collaborative platform for Smart Cities). While PWIMS is doing well, Its thrust area is BIMDCR which they launched in Dec-17 (3D Building Information Model based Automation of Building Permits) as opposed to AutoDCR which is 2D based CAD process.

Existing AutoDCR clients can seamlessly transition to BIMDCR like MCGM (Municipal Corporation of Greater Mumbai), DOITC (Department of Information Technology and Communication) Govt. of Rajasthan and APCRDA (Andhra Pradesh Capital Region Development Authority) for implementing BIMDCR.

In the AGM the co mentioned its desire to expand the products outside India esp in the Asia Pacific and US market. In the sidelines post the AGM its CFO mentioned that even advanced nations like US, the building permits are done offline which was surprising. They have gotten into an agreement with Sputnik Consulting Sdn Bhd, Malaysia in 2019 to sell its products.

The other change happening is in the underlying revenue model of the co. Since a large % of its clients are local government bodies ( Public Works dept and Urban Local bodies), the co is making efforts to transition from a transaction-based to a direct revenue model. The co recently won a contract from UP local body where the money charged for approving building permits will be directly credited into its account instead of the earlier system of collecting from the govt which is the cause for the receivables. This transition can mitigate the issues that it faces in collecting from govt. The mgt was frank enough to admit the receivables issue in the AGM.

The other trigger is that recently RIB ITWO Software Private Limited agreed to advance 14Cr as an optionally convertible loan to SoftTech. RIB Software is a German MNC which provides BIM solutions globally. The terms of the agreement provide for issuance of equity shares upto 10% of the equity in case conversion takes place. For a small co like SoftTech it is interesting to see a German co in the AEC domain advancing a large loan with an intent to convert into equity. In 2018, the R&D exp of Rib Software was 21% of topline with 395 employees out of 1038 engaged in R&D. Its a profitable co with a Net Margin of 16% and EBITDA margin of 28% in 2018.

As far financials are concerned, the co has a net margin of ~12% and an EBITDA margin of ~25% in 2019 with an ROE b/w 12-13%. Its debt will now increase by 14cr post necessary approvals are taken. Its 2019 D/E ratio was 0.21. Receivables formed 17% of its topline in 2019.

H2’2019 v/s H2’2018 results have shown that topline declined by ~9% and due to the fixed cost structure of the co earnings before tax declined by 50%+. However, the co hasn’t yet posted the reasons for decline in topline and my understanding at this point suggests that it maybe due to some seasonal effects in building permits issuance.

Some of the risks i could identify are

  1. Cyclical nature of the real estate business will impact its topline
  2. Collections from govt can be a problem
  3. Too many products in the pipeline and more focus on product engineering than marketing and sales.
  4. If AutoDCR has too many error reports, the scrutiny can be offline. It happened in Nasik where builder body was dissatified with AutoDCR error reports and matter was escalated.

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Arvind fashions - demerged entity from arvind ltd

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@ValueInvestor23 wrote:

Dear Fellow ValuePickr Members,

Due to recent market slowdown an interesting company known as Arvind Fashions Ltd that recently demerged from Arvind Ltd has caught my attention after a severe price/value correction. It is a newly listed entity that went for few upper circuits post listing and now is around half the price of its listing. It is owner/ master franchise of many foreign brands like Gap, The Children’s Place, Sephora, Tommy Hilfiger, USPA, Aeropostale, Arrow, GANT, Izod, Nautica, Ed Hardy and many more for their india operations. There were some news about them discontinuing few brands like Ed Hardy, GANT due to lack of demand.

The company has posted net loss for the last two quarters and as per their recent BSE announcement, The company is planning a Rs.300 Crore right issue. The company has confirmed that they have successfully exited GANT and Nautica in Q2 FY20. Moreover, The management has opted for a very aggressive strategy of moving from retail oriented distribution to a wholesale and online oriented distribution and as a result incurred loss in Q2 FY20.

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Jindal Steel And Power - Can the turnaround happen

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I was just going through the numbers of Jindal Steel And Power and found something interesting which can addback to the market capitalization of the company in a very direct and big way.

The company reported peak EBIDTA of 2277 crores in Jun 2018 with a margin of 24% and its profit numbers have been dwindling since.
However post that quarter the comapny has ramped up its production at Angul Plant out of which more than 50% remains still unutilized. This will be running in full swing very soon.

Now lets see how this will work out:
With yearly EBIDTA of 8000 crores at suppressed prices and 50% production the company can come to an EBIDTA of around 12-15k crores in the coming years.
On top of that the debt reduction plan of the company is at play and the company is committed to reduce the same by another 10k crore in the coming future.

Assuming a 6 times EV/EBIDTA the projected price of the company is as follows

EBIDTA 12000 CR
EV 12000*6 = 72000 cr
LESS DEBT 22000 CR (POST REDUCTION)
EQUITY VALUE / MARKCET CAP - 60000 CR.
CURRENT MARKET CAP - 15000 CR.

HOW MUCH IS THE UPSIDE POTENTIAL LIKELY, would love to hear from our friends.

RISKS:

  1. The old coalgate scam cases are still on, if something against the business comes up can be harmful - however the current government has already completed most of the auctions and seemed to be moving on with this.
  2. The debt reduction the company has promised should happen on the ground for such an increase.
  3. The steel proces are a major driver , however the cycle looks to be lying at a low point now, but steel demand from China is still a major concern for further growth in prices as well as volumes.

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